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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 29, 2010 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

well mine is the version on skull and roses because that and Wharf Rat are the songs that turned me on to the dynamics of the live Grateful Dead experience. The way Garcia and Weir weave in and out and around each other ( while Bill and Phil lay down that pounding rhythm )is beyond explanation or reason and not to mention pure bliss. Certainly nothing like I had experienced before and certainly I know of no one else that can do this sort of thing.

NFA as a stand alone - they did some neat things with it when Brent came on board but soon after that I'd almost rather hear Day Job, that song became SO predictable that I'd have gone home right there if not for wanting to stick it out for the encore just to see. And the clapping and chanting - about as creepy cultish as it could get imo

GDTRFB - love that tune anytime anywhere, I'd be happy even hearing a 95 version. That tune always puts me it a good mood.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 29, 2010 9:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

I've never listened much to the Skull and Roses version! I'll check it out again.

As for the latter-day NFAs, I couldn't agree more. I love that tune in the early days but HATE HATE HATE it in the 80's and 90's. It got slow, routine, and mind-numbingly boring. I like 1977 as a year, but I usually can't even stand Not Fade Away then, so many are lifeless and rote.

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Poster: BVD Date: May 29, 2010 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

Try 10/31/71 on for size

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Poster: BVD Date: May 29, 2010 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

Disregard 10/31/71...It's the wrong date. They didn't even play NFA...on this day. Sorry. I'll find the one I meant to recommend in a bit.

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Poster: BVD Date: May 29, 2010 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

FUCK!! They did play it on Halloween 71. Great high energy version. It's a Dicks Pick, that's why when I checked the archive it wasn't there. Sorry for the mix-up

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 29, 2010 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

"Why would anyone give so much free rent in their heads to this schmuck? The best and the brightest? are you fucking kidding me!!?? Stop feeding his ego! He's no better or brighter than any of you guys."

Stick to fucking with people BVD, you are better at it than discussing music...

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 29, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

Ouch, Cliff. Harsh as ever.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 31, 2010 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

Harsh perhaps, but certainly well deserved!

And 11/7/71 is one of the very best performances of the suite...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-11-07.prefm.kaplan.9570.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: high flow Date: May 29, 2010 2:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ? // Great China-Rider as well

Way to muck-jack the thread. As if we need more of that kind of input.

I, too, love the 4/5/71 version. It's the tops baby!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-04-05.sbd.cantor.gmb.96269.flac16

Just went back to this show. The China-Rider is amazing. The guitar work is nearly flawless. Check out Bob's intro....it's perfect. Right?

This post was modified by high flow on 2010-05-29 21:34:38

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 29, 2010 4:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ? // Great China-Rider as well

NFA > GDTRFB > TOYL clocking in around 35' , plus a BB .
Yeah , this is pretty good

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 29, 2010 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ? // Great China-Rider as well

I suppose that makes me the "worst and dimmest"? I can live with that...plus, it sounds better to say "Flow, you're no dimmer than Tell", eh?

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Poster: high flow Date: May 29, 2010 3:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ? // Great China-Rider as well

Well let's not forget I coined the term muck-jack. NNNNNNNKay?

You are anything but dim, Mr Tell. AND, there is more to life than smart. Smart is great, but I trust the ones with a heart over those with just smarts.

Empathy I believe is the operative word. My favorite people in life have it and show it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: May 29, 2010 3:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ? // Great China-Rider as well

You got that right...I think mine just grew three sizes; but now, I gotta take the ice off the knee and get moving! Keep em honest around here, nnnkay?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 29, 2010 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

you hit the nail on the head 100% on how i feel about NFA too

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: May 30, 2010 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite NFA/GDTRFB ?

For me 71, early Keith versions are the best, but I like NFA into the early 80's, like that sort of "narcotic" feel, that I could have , but after they moved it to the end , and cut the jam to almost nothing, and added the Buddy Holly , "bop bop" ending , It is mostly ... well , kind of lame .
GDTRFB suffers, in my opinion, when Mickey comes back . The gentle , lopeing , rolling ( like you are riding a walking horse )feel becomes more direct , the drummers going "boom-thwack, boom thawk" .
In the early days , I love how they would slip into it, In later days, Jerry would go directly into a sort of irritable, caffeinated version of the riff , to launch the song . Most of the grace , and smooth country groove was gone .
Now there are a few with Hornsby that I have to admit are nice , I just feel, that they got tired of jamming NFA, and lost the country feel for GDTRFB .